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Bob Lefsetz: Reside Nation/DOJ – CelebrityAccess







It’s not going to make ticket costs any decrease.

Assuming that Reside Nation and Ticketmaster are damaged up, or ticketing shouldn’t be unique at venues. Ticket costs don’t have anything to do with Ticketmaster. If something, a treatment will assist different promoters, who will be capable of take part in ticket resale by utilizing one other platform. However if you happen to suppose any change goes to trickle right down to the buyer, you’re delusional.

This isn’t as unhealthy because the Amazon Kindle motion, which resulted within the worth of e-books GOING UP! Sure, beneath the aegis of aiding the buyer, the federal government f*cked the buyer. As an alternative of e-books being beneath ten bucks, they jumped 5 to 10 {dollars} when the mannequin was modified to an company format pioneered by Apple’s iBooks. And all these years later…iBooks has a sliver of the general e-book market. Amazon’s ecosystem was simply too good. And the Seattle firm had a primary mover benefit. You possibly can obtain e-books to your Kindle. Apple didn’t have a competing system. Though you may obtain e-books to your iPad, the place you’d have an almost indistinguishable expertise between Apple and Amazon. Truly, I’d say the iBooks app on the iPad is only a tiny bit higher than the Kindle app on the iPad, however the enchancment is almost irrelevant. It’s akin to the battle between VHS and Beta. Though on this case, Beta, i.e. Apple, got here later. Backside line, folks now had an possibility to purchase e-books for a similar worth at Apple and virtually nobody did. I don’t see Apple even selling iBooks anymore.

The silver lining was reserved for publishers, who wished the e-book useless. They didn’t like the truth that Amazon bought books for beneath wholesale, to construct a enterprise, to develop the general ebook enterprise, regardless of paying wholesale worth to the writer. E-books in lots of circumstances ended up costing as a lot because the bodily ebook, and nobody may fathom that, similar to they’ll’t fathom all of the charges that include buying a live performance ticket.

All these charges exist with a view to have a pot of cash that acts can’t fee, so the promoter and the ticket firm can revenue. And the soiled little secret is the acts even share within the charges whereas in lots of circumstances railing in opposition to them.

It’s good for the acts. They offer the impression that they’re on the followers’ facet, in opposition to evil Ticketmaster, when in reality they love passing the blame for top ticket costs, which they need and authorize, on to another person.

So that you hate the charges. With out the charges, there aren’t any reveals. Interval.

So let’s simply bake the charges into the general ticket worth. Which Reside Nation has begun to do. Let’s be clear, it’s the acts who’ve resisted all-in ticket pricing as a result of as soon as once more, they prefer to make it appear like it’s not their fault that the ticket worth is excessive.

So let’s say we do away with unique constructing contracts. Then the constructing received’t have that assured cash that goes straight to its backside line. Which means they’re going to need to get it elsewhere, in any case it’s a enterprise. Which means the cash’s simply going to be shifted round, however it is going to all be behind the scenes, and also you’ll find yourself paying the identical. Not a penny much less.

And also you hate the so-called Taylor Swift ticketing “debacle.” I hate to inform you this, however Ticketmaster is the most effective at what it does. Solely Ticketmaster has the computing energy to promote this many tickets. As for the glitches… Blame them on the bots, the secondary market.

And the secondary market has accomplished a genius job of promoting. Convincing shoppers and lawmakers that followers personal the ticket and may do no matter they need with it. Sounds good in precept, however the finish result’s tickets within the secondary market are oftentimes astronomically priced. And the act doesn’t share in a penny of this uplift. So, acts are charging increasingly more, what the tickets are actually value, in order that they seize that cash. And the buyer complains. The identical shopper that likes the secondary market as a result of they know in the event that they’re prepared to pay the worth, they’ll purchase a ticket on the final minute to any present.

If you wish to tackle excessive ticket costs, you’ve bought to deal with the secondary market. That will be a greater effort for the DOJ. However the unsophisticated public incorrectly believes Ticketmaster is liable for excessive ticket costs and due to this fact should be hobbled.

As soon as once more, if one other promoter needs to make use of a unique ticketing firm, even their very own… That provides them many benefits. Primarily due to the uplift on resale. Sure, go to the Ticketmaster website and also you’ll see that many tickets for reveals are being resold by the first purchaser. And Ticketmaster takes a share of that, even when it’s not a Reside Nation present. And the act decides whether or not to activate Ticketmaster resale or not. However there’s a giant pool of cash there, and third social gathering promoters are offended they don’t have entry to it.

As for Reside Nation routing excursions to buildings the place they’ve ticketing contracts… That is hazy. They’ve already been slapped by the federal government as soon as for leveraging this relationship. However it makes good enterprise sense. If in case you have the choice between two buildings, why not select your personal, the place you may make extra money? Reside Nation says it isn’t doing this, however how can one show this? You possibly can take a look at every date on every tour and it nonetheless may not be clear.

But when Reside Nation places a present in a constructing that has an unique contract with Ticketmaster, the corporate finally ends up making extra money.

Let’s be very clear, live performance promotion is a license to lose cash. Ensures are giant and margins are slim, which is why there’s not an enormous indie sphere. A foul present or two can put you out of enterprise, whereas Reside Nation can endure a loss. Additionally, Reside Nation pays. It’s not the wild west, if you happen to make a cope with Reside Nation you’ll get your cash, not like within the outdated days of money and weapons and…

So, if Reside Nation doesn’t have the benefit of Ticketmaster, that may make it a bit simpler for third events to bid for expertise. However Reside Nation can oftentimes nonetheless pay extra, due to sponsorship and different income streams. Some acts would possibly shift their excursions to a 3rd social gathering, however that’s assuming the third social gathering pays them as a lot and is nearly as good. And if you happen to’re a growing act, Reside Nation would possibly even make you a deal for the longer term. You should utilize that cash to your benefit whilst you develop your corporation. The ticket worth shouldn’t be the one income stream. There’s merch, meals, parking… Nearly nobody goes to a present and pays for a ticket and nothing extra.

So, antitrust regulation is about making change to the benefit of the buyer. Nothing the DOJ can do will decrease costs for shoppers, NOTHING! Since you, the buyer, are prepared to pay the excessive costs to see your favourite acts. One particular person would possibly keep at residence, however one other will pony up, in lots of circumstances even when they’re not wealthy. In spite of everything, IT’S THEIR FAVORITE ACT!

So there will probably be hosannas within the market on Thursday, or at any time when the DOJ recordsdata their motion. Lastly, somebody is standing as much as Ticketb*stard. However it’s a pyrrhic victory. As a result of Ticketmaster shouldn’t be liable for excessive costs, not by any means. As a matter of truth, Ticketmaster takes a de minimis quantity of the general charges.

As for charges which are equal to the face worth… I imply come on, you suppose you may see these main acts for twenty 5 or fifty bucks? It doesn’t make monetary sense. The act makes it appear like they’re doing the fan a stable and it’s Ticketmaster’s fault costs are excessive. However that’s full b.s. As soon as once more, with out the charges there isn’t any present, they pay for the promoter, the constructing, the staffing…the act doesn’t convey any of those with it.

So we’ve to see what the DOJ is asking for. And no matter it’s, there’s no assure they’ll win. Reside Nation may decide on probably the most advantageous phrases potential or it may combat the motion in court docket, which may take years!

And in reality, ticketing is a low margin enterprise. Don’t count on a plethora of latest opponents to Ticketmaster, it wouldn’t be value efficient, there’s simply not sufficient cash in it.

So, there are true benefits to 3rd half promoters if Ticketmaster is separated from Reside Nation, or unique contracts with buildings are prohibited, however no benefits to the general public by any means.

And the DOJ’s monitor file shouldn’t be good. They will file, however it doesn’t imply they’ll win. Rulings aren’t based mostly on emotion, however regulation, statutes. There are burdens of proof, can the DOJ attain them?

If you would like decrease ticket costs tackle the secondary market. Permit the act and promoter to manage the ticket versus the fan. However the fan doesn’t need this. The fan needs to have the ability to resell their ticket and make a revenue. Somebody’s bought to endure with a view to convey ticket costs down. And Reside Nation and Ticketmaster aren’t the perpetrator.


Take a look at Bob’s current look on CNBC’s Final Name: (begins at 5m)

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